Pennsylvania Gov. Shapiro said Trump gave him an oddly specific warning about the dangers of running for president. Gov. Josh Shapiro reveals to The View bizarre new details about phone call with Donald Trump Pennsylvania Gov. Shapiro said Trump gave him an oddly specific warning about the dangers of running for president. :maxbytes(150000):stripicc()/JoeyNolfiauthorphotoba4923fec03a4027868306485696ef41.jpg) Joey Nolfi is a senior writer at . Since 2016, his work at EW includes RuPaul's Drag Race video interviews, Oscars predictions, and more.
Pennsylvania Gov. Shapiro said Trump gave him an oddly specific warning about the dangers of running for president.
Gov. Josh Shapiro reveals to The View bizarre new details about phone call with Donald Trump
Pennsylvania Gov. Shapiro said Trump gave him an oddly specific warning about the dangers of running for president.
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- *The View* welcomed Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro to the Hot Topics table.
- The politician revealed new details of a bizarre phone call he had with Donald Trump.
- Shapiro recalled the moment he realized "the weave started" with the winding conversation.
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro has revealed to *The View* cohosts new details about a bizarre phone call he had with Donald Trump following an arson attack on the former's mansion.
Appearing Tuesday on the talk show to promote his book *Where We Keep the Light, *Shapiro* *fielded questions ranging from his potential run for president in 2028 (he declined to confirm ambitions for that office) to his state's preparedness for suspected ICE raids that the panel told him they think could move from Minnesota to Pennsylvania in the wake of Alex Pretti's controversial shooting death at the hands of a border patrol agent.
At one point, legal expert and former federal prosecutor Sunny Hostin inquired about a portion of Shapiro's book covering the aftermath of an April 2025 attempted murder of the politician, after a man set fire to Shapiro's official residence while he and his family were asleep inside.
"I understand President Trump did call you a week after the arson attack, and, during you call, you write that he listed potential 2028 Democratic candidates [for president], and also warned you that you shouldn't want to be president, given how dangerous it had become to hold the office," Hostin told Shapiro, before asking, "Can you tell us who he mentioned as potential candidates, and what did you think about that warning?"**
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Shapiro recalled getting the phone call from Trump, who also survived an assassination attempt in Pennsylvania in 2024, while he was "trying to decompress after the week," but initially didn't pick up because it was a from a number he didn't recognize.
After letting the call go to voicemail, he listened to the message, and realized it was Trump. Shapiro said he felt compelled to call Trump back, as he wanted to "treat the office with respect."
"The first couple minutes was him checking in and letting me know his administration was on top of it, which they were," Shapiro remembered. "I do appreciate that. And then he just sort of went into a... the weave started, and we were onto tariffs."
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Shapiro added that he wanted to "lobby on behalf of Pennsylvania steel workers" during the conversation, but said Trump sent the discussion slightly off the rails.
"And then he started sort of musing aloud about Democratic party, and he said, 'By the way, you shouldn't want to be president,' and I said, 'Well, Mr. President, I'm not planning on running for president,' and he said to me, 'Well, it's very dangerous. It's more dangerous than being a bull rider,'" said Shapiro, with Trump's former White House communications staffer, Alyssa Farah Griffin, laughing out loud over the admission.
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US President Donald Trump during a Mexican Border Defense medal presentation on Dec. 15, 2025 in Washington, DC.
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Shapiro ended his point by observing, "I thought, how do you sort of know that, empirically? He went through a whole thing."
Later, when pressed by Hostin on whether or not he'd run for president, Shapiro gave an ambiguous answer.
"I think no one should be looking past these midterms. We have to focus on reigning in the excesses, the chaos, the cruelty, the lawlessness of this administration," Shapiro replied. "I think we need a national referendum — not just in Pennsylvania, not just in swing districts, all across this country, people need to show up, they need to vote, and they need to send a clear message that this is not okay. That's all I'm focused on."
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